Fast and Furious Continuation of Bush

Remember FAST & FURIOUS? The infamous gun trafficing by our Government?

Apr 11, 2016 14:39:19   #

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

Great job of connecting the dots. Hillary and fast and furious.

Did any of you notice that the gun program started under bush? 2006

Did you notice that it was terminated under Bush, also, and re-started under Obama?

Apr 11, 2016 14:42:01   #

Loki wrote:

Did you notice that it was terminated under Bush, also, and re-started under Obama?

No, I did not notice any termination.

Apr 11, 2016 14:59:02   #

moldyoldy wrote:

Great job of connecting the dots. Hillary and fast and furious.

Did any of you notice that the gun program started under bush? 2006

Have you given any thought to documenting that... beyond Media Matters tripe?

Apr 11, 2016 15:36:33   #

S. Maturin wrote:

Have you given any thought to documenting that... beyond Media Matters tripe?

You could actually read the link posted at the beginning of this thread.

Apr 11, 2016 15:42:23   #

moldyoldy wrote:

You could actually read the link posted at the beginning of this thread.

"Started and stopped..."-- ? But 'Fast & Furious'; was the program way back titled 'Fast & Furious'?

Then.... along came 'open borders' Bam-Bam and death.

Our boy president: "Issa also said in his statement Friday that Obama has failed to fully comply with the subpoenas."

Apr 11, 2016 16:30:26   #

Loki Loc: Georgia

Apr 11, 2016 16:32:48   #

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

No, I did not notice any termination.

A similar program was instituted under Bush, called "Wide Receiver." It had MUCH tighter controls over the firearms. It was terminatied, and begun again in early 2009, under Obama, and called "Fast and Furious."

Apr 11, 2016 17:07:17   #

Apr 11, 2016 17:18:32   #

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

National Review would naturally defend bush. The real story is more complicated. It seems the program morphed into another desperate attempt to get results.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

All of the guns were lost on Obama's watch. That is the bottom line. the guns were not lost while the Bush Administration was in charge.They were not sold illegally while the Bush Administration was in charge. The screwups ALL happened on Obama and Holder's watch. This was not a continuation of something the previous Administration messed up. This was 100% Obama and Holder and the dickheads at the BATFE.

Apr 11, 2016 17:46:36   #

CowboyMilt wrote:

OH DEAR LORD LET IT BE!!!

"Laws," CM, certainly become distorted in the hands of a criminal element. What happens to our Founding Fathers rather "experimental" form of government in our "New World," was basted on a Holy Biblical morality that was necessary to insure our basic survival. There were a few very important concepts "created" in our original documents that "checked and balanced" any "strangers" that found our free-market Western civilization quite easy to slither into; but totally impossible to change without the designated acceptance of AMERICA. THAT'S "US," and, be damned if you try to "go under, over or around" [Pelosi], what makes America the greatest nation to EVER grace, [with the help of God], the face of OUR planet earth.

God works in mysterious ways, and, I believe, TBN, {Trinity Broadcasting Network}, is God's "mysterious" method of "SPREADING THE WORD," to EVERY country, in EVERY language, and is making "THE WORD," the most prolific and far-reaching spiritual enlightenment in the history of earth. The "message," has been in God's writing for more than 2500 years; about 2300 years before any of this was at all possible. "Mysterious," huh.

Apr 11, 2016 21:44:47   #

S. Maturin wrote:

In their twisted, pre-1935 minds, liberals tell the truth and nothing but the truth 100% of the time. Think they lie? Well, that's because you are a (insert nasty word).

As for the redacted Fast - n - Furious document.. golly, lots of info there, eh? A truly vast amount when one thinks progressives were involved in the transmission.

Obama and the "Privileged" Holder are contemptible. They were responsible for the death of Agent Brian Terry. He was a U.S. Marine Corps veteran; served with the United States Border Patrol for 3-1/2 years and previously served as a police officer with the Lincoln Park, Michigan, Police Department. These are the credentials Brian carried - this is the recommendation of the man who was murdered as a result of this exercise in dereliction and arrogance. Now Brian is interred, and Holder isn't even incarcerated. It is disgraceful.

We have been told many times of the courage of the Benghazi victims after Ambassador Stevens' 600 pleas for extra security were not only ignored, but actually met with a depletion of force. How this atrocity could have happened on 9/11, of all days, is incomprehensible. Why were they abandoned? Why was our consulate the last one standing? Who wrote those "talking points" which seem to be more concerned with not offending the ideology of the perpetrators, than in the deaths of the U.S. officials, on what was considered U.S. soil? Where was the
empathy for the victims' families as Obama left for a fund-raiser in Vegas the following morning and Hillary was MIA.

And oh, yes - dear Hillary. Lately, Obama has been spewing some defensive comments about being SURE that there was no "classified" emails in her unsecured server. Government emails aren't marked "classified" - they're marked "Confidential" - except for emails that are considered the most covert of all - they're designated "Top Secret." Hillary had both categories in her emails.

Here is a woman who cares nothing for our brave military and has deliberately compromised our National Security!!! Even if the emails she received and transferred were FREE of any government intelligence, the fact that she made the admission that she didn't want to carry two phones (for convenience sake), should be enough to indict her. Our soldiers carry up to 100 lbs. of gear on their backs during deployment, and she can't carry two phones? She can't claim ignorance that her emails were in no danger of being hacked either. Just check out this video - she convicts herself:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SDoKZ8omQ

I have a pet peeve - and it's ingratitude. Our military put their lives on the line for us every day - their families live with the fear of their being wounded or killed every day. The least we should do is support them in every way we can. Obama and Hillary were in a position to
protect them - instead, they dismantle our defenses and employ "Rules of Engagement" that are a farce; ignore pleas for security; compromise our intelligence to adversaries; permit unvetted immigrants into our country whose intentions are suspect; and offer PRIORITY TO BORDER BREACHERS at the expense of the safety and security of our own citizens.

Our country was once a refuge, an icon of freedom and liberty. It is now losing its history, its culture, its morality and its pride because of an Administration that abandoned its loyalty to her in exchange for apologies and alienated allegiances.

America's people, however, will not betray her. September 12, 2001 was evidence of that. We will unite again and reestablish the principles and ethics of the country we love.

Apr 11, 2016 22:05:47   #

Tradition wrote:

Obama and the "Privileged" Holder are contemptible. They were responsible for the death of Agent Brian Terry. He was a U.S. Marine Corps veteran; served with the United States Border Patrol for 3-1/2 years and previously served as a police officer with the Lincoln Park, Michigan, Police Department. These are the credentials Brian carried - this is the recommendation of the man who was murdered as a result of this exercise in dereliction and arrogance. Now Brian is interred, and Holder isn't even incarcerated. It is disgraceful.

We have been told many times of the courage of the Benghazi victims after Ambassador Stevens' 600 pleas for extra security were not only ignored, but actually met with a depletion of force. How this atrocity could have happened on 9/11, of all days, is incomprehensible. Why were they abandoned? Why was our consulate the last one standing? Who wrote those "talking points" which seem to be more concerned with not offending the ideology of the perpetrators, than in the deaths of the U.S. officials, on what was considered U.S. soil? Where was the
empathy for the victims' families as Obama left for a fund-raiser in Vegas the following morning and Hillary was MIA.

And oh, yes - dear Hillary. Lately, Obama has been spewing some defensive comments about being SURE that there was no "classified" emails in her unsecured server. Government emails aren't marked "classified" - they're marked "Confidential" - except for emails that are considered the most covert of all - they're designated "Top Secret." Hillary had both categories in her emails.

Here is a woman who cares nothing for our brave military and has deliberately compromised our National Security!!! Even if the emails she received and transferred were FREE of any government intelligence, the fact that she made the admission that she didn't want to carry two phones (for convenience sake), should be enough to indict her. Our soldiers carry up to 100 lbs. of gear on their backs during deployment, and she can't carry two phones? She can't claim ignorance that her emails were in no danger of being hacked either. Just check out this video - she convicts herself:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SDoKZ8omQ

I have a pet peeve - and it's ingratitude. Our military put their lives on the line for us every day - their families live with the fear of their being wounded or killed every day. The least we should do is support them in every way we can. Obama and Hillary were in a position to
protect them - instead, they dismantle our defenses and employ "Rules of Engagement" that are a farce; ignore pleas for security; compromise our intelligence to adversaries; permit unvetted immigrants into our country whose intentions are suspect; and offer PRIORITY TO BORDER BREACHERS at the expense of the safety and security of our own citizens.

Our country was once a refuge, an icon of freedom and liberty. It is now losing its history, its culture, its morality and its pride because of an Administration that abandoned its loyalty to her in exchange for apologies and alienated allegiances.

America's people, however, will not betray her. September 12, 2001 was evidence of that. We will unite again and reestablish the principles and ethics of the country we love.

Obama and the "Privileged" Holder are co... (show quote)

Apr 11, 2016 22:45:13   #

I wonder how many people in how many countries have been murdered and will be murdered by those unaccounted for guns. How many crimes connected with them before it's all said and done? These people are cold blooded as hell! If those weapons didn't have little tracking devices, how were they proposing to track them? By the mayhem they caused! What a suck-assy thing to do. I hate what my government does in all our names sometimes. I know this too...I had an early 1900's bolt action Mauser military rifle...smooth and accurate after a century.

Apr 11, 2016 22:56:39   #

Apr 11, 2016 23:09:26   #

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